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[Guest_AidenLogan_*]

I am looking for a Super Automatic Machine that has automatic and manual frother. I was initially interested in the Gaggia Academia but I am worried about the automatic frother temperature and the frequent emptying of bins. Has this issue been addressed or is there a mod to get around it? I will be replacing my Gaggia Classic and would like to control the frothing unless you can convince me that the automatic frothing is fine. My budget is $1500 or less. Refurbished is fine.

[Guest_ElijahAiden_*]

Anything, in particular, you don't like about the Classic? No super auto is going to give you the quality of espresso you should be getting from a good semi-auto like the Classic. Same with the milk steaming... I've watched a lot of videos over the years on the auto steaming functions used on super autos and they are all a joke compared to manually texturing milk. I understand some want convenience, consistency, etc., but the quality suffers along the way.

[Guest_Cybernate_*]

Anything, in particular, you don't like about the Classic? No super auto is going to give you the quality of espresso you should be getting from a good semi-auto like the Classic. Same with the milk steaming... I've watched a lot of videos over the years on the auto steaming functions used on super autos and they are all a joke compared to manually texturing milk. I understand some want convenience, consistency, etc., but the quality suffers along the way.

Cleanup, kids, counter space, wife wanting something simple, etc. It just makes sense to get something more automatic for the household. I travel a lot and I understand the wife's concerns.

I am looking for a Super Automatic that has a manual steam wand so I can steam my own milk. The two that come to mind are the Gaggia Accademia and Babila.

[Guest_Vendég_*]

You are probably asking the wrong people. Not many fans of the super automatics on this site. You tell me that you want to upgrade from a Gaggia Classic and you want better milk frothing/texturing - I'll recommend an HX (heat exchanger) espresso machine. You tell me that a manual espresso machine is to much trouble to use - I'll suggest simpler brewing methods such as drip or press.

[Guest_coppermineclock_*]

I would like to buy a super automatic espresso machine and have been doing some research to work out the best machine to buy. I was wondering whether anyone could help me. CG recommends the Jura Capresso Impressa S9 Super Automatic, and a number of people at this site have also recommended Juras for super automatics. Choice, however, gives the following top four in their ratings of super automatics: SAECO Incanto S-Class De Luxe, SAECO Magic De Luxe, SOLIS Palazzo Rapid Steam, and SUNBEAM Café Barista EM8800.

In other reviews though, the SEACO, SOLIS, and Jura machines do not receive especially good reviews, and the machines with the best (and greatest number of) reviews are the Gaggia Syncrony Compact Digital and Gaggia Synchrony Digital Espresso Machine, which I haven't seen favorably reviewed elsewhere. So, I know super automatic espresso machines aren't particularly well viewed here, but, in light of this conflicting information, I wanted to ask people who knew what they were talking about what the best machine to buy was and why in the $500-1500AUD price range.

Thanks very much for your help!

[Guest_Guest_beneathftr_*_*]

I am looking for a Super Automatic Machine that has automatic and manual frother. I was initially interested in the Gaggia Academia but I am worried about the automatic frother temperature and the frequent emptying of bins. Has this issue been addressed or is there a mod to get around it? I will be replacing my Gaggia Classic and would like to control the frothing unless you can convince me that the automatic frothing is fine. My budget is $1500 or less. Refurbished is fine.

Were not into Superautos here because we expect outstanding coffee. Other threads here will give you a CS rating of Choice.

If it has to be super auto, you should probably purchase Jura as they are universally considered to be the best. Most of the others seem to be exercised in heartbreak when it comes to longevity and frequency of breakdown repair. Its a shame that you have (or choose) to go super auto- because a similar budget and just a little effort would open the door to coffee that would make you reluctant to go out for one. There are many tales of super auto woe here. Hopefully, yours will not be another one wink.gif

Enjoy the ride.

[Guest_ElijahAiden_*]

Thanks for your replies - I do have a strong preference for a machine where I don't have to grind the coffee separately, put it in the brewing head (or however that part of standard machines are called), tamp it, and attach the brewing head to the rest of the machine.

Having said that, if there isn't a super automatic machine in this price range that produces drinkable coffee and isn't likely to break down frequently, then I will have to reconsider this preference.

Fix, to answer your questions: my main coffee is a flat white, and I would probably prefer to froth my own milk. I probably have one to two a day, at separate times. Bench space isn't an issue, and I suppose I would prefer a digital display although I don't really mind.

[Guest_Cybernate_*]

Hi Greg, Glad you had the courage to ask a question like that here. ;D
My opinion is, there is no point buying a manual machine no matter how much it costs if you can't use it to its full ability. Yes, they make an excellent cuppa, but if you have had no training on how to achieve that excellent cuppa, it will make just as bad, if not worse coffee than the super autos.
If your expertise is limited, I would stick to the superautos and you will enjoy your coffee once you have found the right coffee and coffee settings that suit you.
Saeco and Gaggia auto machines are made in the same factory so are the same parts that tend to break down. I know this cause I have had 2 Caicos in the last 10 years.....they work well when they work.
I recommend you buy what you are comfortable in using and make sure you have a coffee from whichever machine you buy before you actually purchase 1, then you can sample the type of coffee it makes and won't be disappointed when you get it home.

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This post is right on. More important than the espresso machine is getting a fresh bean and a very good grinder. The Mazer Mini is a good grinder But there are some others that can cost a lot more. Seattlecoffeegear has some good stuff as does wholelattelove.com. It really depends on how much you want to spend. My advice is to get a very good grinder and then look for an espresso machine. I am particular to ECM espresso machine which is what we own. It has a stainless steel boiler and the design is easy well put together so that if anything breaks it will be easier to repair. The other biggest advice I can give you is to use softened water. Calcium buildup on a machine eventually kills it.

[Guest_Vendég_*]

You can go for Gaggia Accademia, it's a good choice and also you won't regret. Another option to look for is Delonghi ESAM3300, it's a proven machine and is already serving many homes, even some small cafes. Jura has also launched few new models, but manual frother is not there. Here you can see an updated list of all the machines for this year https://www.friedcoffee.com/automatic-espresso-machine/. The list is updated regularly and contains only those models that are loved by the users. Hope that gives you good help.

I jumped into the deep end of the espresso pool about 3 years ago so I know what it's like to be in your shoes. The most important thing is to figure out exactly what you want out of coffee before spending any $. It's really easy to waste $ buying equipment that will not produce what you want. The first step is research. Espresso is all about the equipment: grinder, espresso maker, steamer. So if you go down that road you want to be absolutely sure you buy the correct equipment for your needs, otherwise it could be expensive lesson.

Read reviews and try to purchase from a store with a generous return policy. I initially bought a $1,000 Saeco super automatic from Whole Latte Love. It was super easy to to use, but the espresso was mediocre. I was able to return it after using it for a few weeks in exchange for a semi automatic Breville dual boiler and Baratza grinder.